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Panpsychism, the combination problem, and Sufi mysticism

Author profile picture Christopher Crompton
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Recipient profile picture Philip Goff
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20 June
Dear Philip Goff,
I am intrigued by your support of panpsychism and would love to run some things past you. I enjoyed your exchange with Massimo Pigliucci on Collate, although I could sense your frustration that some of his key objections seemed to be based on what you felt were misunderstandings or misinterpretations of your position and arguments. However, his prime complaint is that panpsychism is not empirically verifiable from a third-person, objective perspective. This is something you freely admit, and the crux of your divergence is that you nonetheless consider it a worthwhile idea to pursue, not just for its internal coherence but for the relative simplicity with which it offers a uniting description of both perceived and measurable realities. Professor Pigliucci, on the other hand, thinks that panpsychism’s empirical reliance on first-person experience alone renders it inherently unscientific, that its attempt to more fully explain the richness of experience takes it beyond the remit of scientific enquiry, and also somehow that attempting to describe and explain an experience is equatable to having that experience. I hope this serves as a reasonable, if abridged, summary of that discussion. It appears that beyond the semantic confusions, the two of you are operating in subtly different paradigms of enquiry. That’s fine, but having established that, it would be nice to get to the real meat of panpsychism itself, so I’m not here to drag out that line of discussion on the boundaries of scientific knowledge. I’d like instead to bring up the so-called ‘combination problem’ within panpsychism, which is regarded as a key challenge to its response to the ‘hard problem’ of consciousness, the problem of explaining how and why we have phenomenal experiences. As David Chalmers put it, the combination problem ‘is roughly the question: how do the experiences of fundamental physical entities such as quarks and photons combine to yield the familiar sort of human conscious experience that we know and love?’ As William James noted more than a century ago, if experiences do not aggregate into further experiences, and minds do not aggregate into further minds, a panpsychic view that contends that experiences of micro-physical entities (like particles) combine to generate macro-experiences (like the conscious experience of an individual human) encounters an explanatory stumbling block. It’s important to note for other readers that there are several competing schools within panpsychism, as well as off-shoots such as panprotopsychism, but most of them, including the Russellian panpsychism you espouse, are subject to a combination problem in some form. More radical, ‘emergent’ panpsychist avenues can avoid the problem, but bring new problems of their own. David Chalmers has also subdivided the problem into subject, quality and structure combination problems, but the key issue at stake arguably remains the ‘subject-summing problem’ of how a number of distinct subjects can become a single, conscious mind, how consciousness at the level of fundamental physics could possibly become the consciousness of a human or nonhuman mind. Your own thought experiment involving the ‘micro-experiential zombie’ demonstrates the inconceivability of subject summing when we make key assumptions. Notably, we assume that for fact X at the micro level to ground fact Y at the macro level, X must necessitate Y; in other words, facts (true propositions) about micro-level entities, such as particles making up a human, should account entirely for the existence of that human’s consciousness at the macro level. In your micro-experiential zombie worlds, it nonetheless seems possible for facts about micro-level entities to obtain in the absence of any macro-level consciousness. This means, as you put it, that ‘physical facts plus micro-experience do not a priori entail o-experience’. You conclude therefore that panpsychism cannot solve the hard problem of consciousness unless it also agrees to one of a series of other conditions, such as hidden aspects of micro-experience, extra laws of nature, or micro-experiential properties that come together and somehow change into macro-conscious (o-) experience. I first came across the metaphysical concept of monism, the notion that all things in existence are really one single thing or that the universe is comprised of one fundamental kind of thing, during a stint at a Sufi community some years ago. I later learned that Bertrand Russell, a philosopher whose writings I greatly enjoy, had arrived at a form of monism in which that fundamental kind of thing is consciousness. For the Sufi community, it was the One, God, or divine essence, but labels aside, the positions are substantively similar, despite being arrived at by very different roads. At the time, I had already begun actively exploring the nature of consciousness, and was poking at the notion that consciousness might be a fifth fundamental force grounded in undetectable physical matter, a kind of materialist panpsychism. In exploring the physics to support that metaphysical avenue, I also became interested in hyperdimensionality, which is a topic it might be nice to run past you in respect to panpsychism in another letter. But what began to fascinate me most of all were the experiences recounted to me by members of the Sufi community of meditative states of ‘higher consciousness’, in which they claimed to have experienced a profound sense of connection and union with all things in existence, a deep peace and a dissolution of their individual selves into the universe itself. Experiences like these are clearly not confined to meditation, and states with the same descriptions have been encountered by users of certain hallucinogenic drugs as well as those in near-death conditions. They can be seen as chemically-induced delusions of the brain, perhaps adaptations that allow us better to deal with death, or alternatively as mind-altering experiences of the kind that allow people some perspective on an underlying reality beyond what is normally subjectively available. If the latter happened to be true, it would provide a very interesting case for panpsychism in terms of the way a macro-consciousness might relate to an even wider macro-consciousness. It opens the possibility that one approach to the combination problem could be to begin by asserting something like this: 1) All micro-entities are at all times fundamentally components of a universal macro-entity. 2) The essence (facts) of that universal macro-entity is (are) contained in potential form in all micro-entities. 3) The manifestation of a particular assemblage of those facts (a given level or set of properties of consciousness) out of the full potential range of universal facts into discrete-seeming macro-entities is dependent on the particular construction of macro-entities. While this does not yet in itself address the nature of the combination of micro-entities, it does present a challenge to the assumption that the expressed facts of the consciousness of a macro-entity must equal the expressed facts of its component micro-entities. On one level, it also collapses the very idea of subject-summing in on itself in asserting that however given micro-entities are arranged and combined, they are and always were intrinsically part of a macro-entity at the universal level, so their ‘summing’ is not really a union of discretely individual entities but more of an internal reconstitution of components. When it comes to the specific question of why certain assemblages of particles in biological matter give rise to the forms of consciousness that we experience, there are perhaps some clues to work with in the physical phenomena studied in neuroscience. However, it seems beyond the reasonable remit of this initial letter to do any sort of justice to that particular frontier. Instead, I want to stick here with the metaphysics, and I’m interested in your thoughts on some very old monist writings that I think point to some cool metaphysical possibilities. A central object of study for the Sufi community was a text called the Fusus-al-Hikam (Bezels of Wisdom) by a thirteenth century scholar and mystic called Ibn Arabi. Much of it makes for an interesting read, and I could draw attention to several claims, but I want now to share a couple of passages in particular: ‘When we witness, He [Allah/the One] witnesses Himself. We are certainly numerous as individuals and species, yet we are based on a single reality which unites us… Know that universal matters which have no existence in themselves are without a doubt intelligible and known in the mind. They are hidden and continue in their invisible existence. These universal matters have jurisdiction and effect on everything which has an individual existence. Indeed, they are the same thing and nothing else, i.e., the sources of existent individual things, and they continue to be intelligible in themselves. They are manifest in respect of the sources of existent things just as they are hidden in respect of their intelligibility. Each individual existent thing depends on these universal matters which cannot be dislodged from the intellect, nor would their existence be possible in the source once they ceased to be intelligible, whether that individual existent is in-time or out-of-time. The relationship of that which is in-time or out-of-time to this universal intelligible matter is the same. This universal matter only has jurisdiction in individual existent things according to what the realities of these individual existent things demand of it. It is like the relationship of knowledge to the knower, and life to the living… It is known that these universal matters, even if they are intelligible, lack a source, although they still have an authority. When they are determined, since they are ascribed to an individual existent thing, they accept the principle in the existent sources and do not accept distinction or fragmenting, for that is impossible for them. They themselves are in everything described by them, as humanity is in every person of this particular species, without distinction or the numbering which affects individuals; and it continues to be intelligible.’ I’m going to resist any specific analysis here, and also make no claim as to the validity or provenance of these concepts. But purely as a set of ideas, there are some intriguing possibilities for the panpsychist to unfold, are there not? I’m interested in your initial thoughts. Yours sincerely,

Christopher Crompton

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    Christopher Crompton on 9 September
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, I alternate my car radio between Classic FM and Planet Rock, as the mood takes me. Yesterday evening, as I headed off to a music event in Birmingham, the radio was still set to Planet Rock from the day before. Yet rather than soaring guitar solos or ...

    Let the Train Go, We Want to See Our Queen

    Dale Joseph Ferrier on 13 September
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, [h1]Let the people see their Queen[/h1] [justify]The passing of Her Majesty last week marked a time of collective sorrow for the nation, a time where we have put aside our petty differences, and shelved our ongoing worries over inflation to simply re...

    The Man from the Future

    Tobias Lim on 15 September
    Responses: 2

    Dear Ananyo Bhattacharya, [highlight=transparent]I wanted to thank you for writing The Man from the Future. I got my copy on Audible and thoroughly enjoyed listening to your tale of the legendary John von Neumann. You did a marvelous job weaving his personal story in between ...

    What can you teach us about drought-resistant gardening?

    Christopher Crompton on 21 September
    Responses: 0

    Dear Tom Brown, I was interested to read recently about your experimentation at West Dean Gardens near Chichester in creating a garden that is drought-tolerant and requires minimal watering. It was particularly intriguing that you said you have tried out using crush...

    Harley Benton guitars – compliments and a request

    Christopher Crompton on 21 September
    Responses: 0

    Dear Hans Thomann, I am writing first of all to extend my compliments on your excellent Harley Benton guitars. I really feel your brand is transforming the guitar industry for the better. I bought my first Harley Benton last year after reading many superb reviews, in...

    Christianity and Me

    Dale Joseph Ferrier on 22 September
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, [justify][highlight=transparent]A few weeks ago whilst at our usual Saturday night excursion to the village local, our conversation somehow got onto religion. Someone in our group said something seemingly insignificant, but it sparked a small epiphan...

    Farming, fungi and the future

    Christopher Crompton on 23 September
    Responses: 0

    Dear Ruth Jones, I am writing to you in your capacity as Shadow Minister for Agri-Innovation and Climate Adaptation. At present, Britain clearly has a long way to go to arrive at a sustainable system of farming. While piecemeal changes are being made, we are not seei...

    The Importance of General Aviation

    Dale Joseph Ferrier on 28 September
    Responses: 0

    Dear Anne-Marie Trevelyan, [justify][highlight=transparent]Firstly, I congratulate you on your appointment to the Department for Transport - a cornerstone for our Levelling Up agenda. I want to write to you to highlight a small but highly important area of the transport sector...

    Fermat, Pascal and Letters

    Tobias Lim on 29 September
    Responses: 2

    Dear Internet, [center][i][highlight=transparent]“I should like to open my heart to you henceforth if I may... I plainly see that the truth is the same at Toulouse and at Paris.” — Pascal to Fermat (1654) [0][/highlight][/i][/center] [highlight=transparent]We migh...

    What are your views on the state of American politics and leadership today?

    Tobias Lim on 2 October
    Responses: 0

    Dear Erik SuarezΦ, [highlight=transparent]I saw your tweet about Collate a few days ago. [1] As an early adopter of the platform myself, I have to agree. I’ve been using Collate as an opportunity to reach out to public figures, to improve my writing, and to muse about ...

    Dealing With Our Gelatinous Ignorance

    Tobias Lim on 3 October
    Responses: 0

    Dear Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, [highlight=transparent]Firstly, I want to say thank you for your newsletter. For basketball fans around the world, your achievements, both on and off the court, have achieved a sort of mythical status. So it makes me happy that one of the greatest-of...

    Bridges to Infinity and God

    Tobias Lim on 10 October
    Responses: 0

    Dear Michael Guillen, [highlight=transparent]A few weeks ago, I bought a worn copy of your book, Bridges to Infinity, from my local bookshop. The intriguing cover and table of contents caught my eye immediately. And having read the book, I can see why you won awards as a ...

    Nurturing a Child’s Lifelong Love for Books

    Tobias Lim on 13 October
    Responses: 0

    Dear Jan Hasbrouck, [highlight=transparent]I’ve been wondering about ways to improve global education outcomes around the world. In an ideal world, such a policy or initiative should: (1) help students to discover and unlock their potential; (2) not drain the public cof...

    Solitude, Obligations, and a Rewarding Life

    Tobias Lim on 18 October
    Responses: 4

    Dear Fenton Johnson, [highlight=transparent]I want to thank you for writing At the Center of All Beauty. I appreciated your reflections on silence, solitude, and the creative life. I also enjoyed the serenity you evoked as I moved from page to page. More importantly, yo...

    Me & U after Ashoka

    Divyansh on 19 October
    Responses: 2

    Dear Riya Behl, I don't know how this works. I do see this is as a space to have a different strand of conversations from our regular ones. The letter format provides a sense of continuity with no pressure to respond. So let me take this opportunity to start somethi...

    Truss was the first Tory leader in decades to wrap herself in the image of Thatcher. But would the Iron Lady have approved of Trussonomics?

    Sir Anthony Seldon on 24 October
    Responses: 3

    Dear Lord Charles Moore, [color=rgb(34, 34, 34)][highlight=transparent]It is an honour to be corresponding about Lady Thatcher with the most distinguished authority and interpreter of her in the world. [/highlight][/color]   [color=rgb(34, 34, 34)][highlight=transparent]Brit...

    Alternative Technology for Biomedical Waste Disposal, Govandi Deonar Mumbai

    Govandi Citizens #𝑺𝒂𝒗𝒆𝑮𝒐𝒗𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒊  on 28 October
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, Story of the residents fighting to shut down the biomedical waste treatment plant in Govandi. It was during the COVID-19 pandemic that I realised that I must join the fight for clean air. As biomedical waste increased tenfold at health facilities an...

    test to kevin

    Kevin P2 on 30 October
    Responses: 0

    Dear Kevin P., [justify]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Maecenas et suscipit purus. Sed placerat augue et ullamcorper imperdiet. Donec nec hendrerit tortor. Curabitur viverra sapien non leo lobortis iaculis. Duis ullamcorper risus et porta ...

    Please, can you tell us how to protect democracy?

    Tobias Lim on 7 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Jennifer Dresden, [highlight=transparent]I am an ordinary citizen who is concerned about the future of democracy. You know better than I that the US midterm elections will be a bellwether for things to come.[/highlight] [highlight=transparent]You gave a fantastic int...

    Edit Buttons, Selfies and Life

    Tobias Lim on 8 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, [highlight=transparent]I have sometimes wished for an edit button on this platform. I even went as far as to send the founder of Collate a request for this very feature. I happen to be a clumsy perfectionist, you see. I have an uncanny knack for find...

    Thickheaded Corporations

    Tobias Lim on 14 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, [highlight=transparent]A few months ago, a family-friend who we will call Valerie bought two tickets for herself and her friend for travel long overdue. They were excited to visit someplace exotic after extended lockdowns and closed international bor...

    An Addendum to Gelatinous Ignorance

    Tobias Lim on 14 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, [highlight=transparent]A few weeks ago, I wrote a short letter about the “[/highlight][color=rgb(17, 85, 204)][highlight=transparent][url=https://www.collate.org/closed_letter/dealing-with-our-gelatinous-ignorance/sender]gelatinous ignorance[/url][/h...

    Why are video games so violent?

    Tobias Lim on 15 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Michael Kasumovic, [highlight=transparent]I came across an interesting article on [/highlight][color=rgb(17, 85, 204)][highlight=transparent][url=https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/why-do-we-play-violent-video-games#:~:text=Kasumovic%20says.,to%20satisfy%20...

    Love, Terror, and Brainwashing — How can we stop cult-like politics?

    Tobias Lim on 15 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Alexandra Stein, [highlight=transparent]In light of recent political developments, I was looking for books and papers to better understand the nature of human organization and social structure. I found your research on cults especially illuminating. So t[/highlight]h...

    What are your plans for Cressbrook Dale?

    Christopher Crompton on 21 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Rachel Elnaugh, I have been visiting the Peak District National Park for many years and regard Cressbrook Dale as one of its gems of natural beauty and biodiversity. The woodland and wildflowers through the seasons are a particular joy, and as National Park access l...

    A question about the mindful athlete

    Tobias Lim on 21 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear George Mumford, [highlight=transparent]I bought my second copy of The Mindful Athlete a few days ago. This time, I plan to give it to a friend as a Christmas gift. You see, this friend of mine is facing a series of setbacks and personal hardships. But I am hopeful t...

    In Praise of Classical Music

    Dale Joseph Ferrier on 22 November
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, [justify][highlight=transparent]Our culture around the world is immensely varied with a myriad of arts, traditions, and literature. But possibly the most defining of these for each of our societies is music. The various ways we generate what would or...

    Letters to Tarkovsky

    Tobias Lim on 4 December
    Responses: 0

    Dear Internet, When a nobody like myself writes in letter form to a public figure, there is only a small probability that she will see my words amidst the flood of mail and messages that she inevitably receives. Beyond that, there is an even smaller chance that she...

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